Ceaser Milon?

My brother watches dog whisperer and all of a sudden he thinks he knows more about dogs than I do. Who pleaded to get a dog for monthes? Me! Who did research on Google for three hours a day? Me! Who looked up the best breeds of dogs? Me1 Me! Me! ME! He also makes up common scense rules. My parents don't do anything, so what do I do? I keep my feelings bottled up which I know is not healthy. How do I tell my brother that I know more about dogs than him? How do I tell him ceaser (salad) only helps the owners to show the owners how to teach their dog new tricks?Added note- Ceaser's roller blades are weird!

Ceaser Milon?
Here's my analogy of Cesar Milan.





A few years back the Atkins Diet craze hit. Many jumped on the bandwagon and got temporary results. Meanwhile, nutritionists stood by and shook their heads - knowing that this was INSANE.





Same thing with Cesar Milan. He has no education or credentials. Anyone with any actual knowledge of dog behavior knows he's a hack. His methods may work temporarily, but in the long run - all you do by training a dog that way is create a ticking time bomb.





Glad to hear that most of you are seeing this guy for what he really is.
Reply:Yes, his methods are old and generally ineffective. Also, none of the dogs on the show seem to like him, which amuses me since he is apparently the "Dog Whisperer." He doesn't even have a graduate level education, which obviously shows through his methods. He is not technically a dog behaviorist or psychologist (he would need a master's or doctorate for that). Rather, he is a dog trainer that got his own tv show and seems to make the pet psychology field look ridiculous.
Reply:first of all i think the dog whisperer is a load of bull b/c the same friggin thing happened to me. i've been workin my but off @ a pet store since my parents opened it. i learned ligitamate ways on how to train your pet and what chemicals work and what doesn't and my grandparents started watching that stupid show and know they think they know the best way to train my dog. The "dog whisperer" does have some good, proven ways of training but also aloyt of them are just crackpot things that he films when it works and doesn't film when it doesn't work.





that bitter apple spray incident, that stuff does wirk, if you use it the way your supposed to, and your deffinately not supposed to spray it on there face, tell your genious brother to read the back label! but finding a way to prove to your brother that he's kind of an idiot, just let him read all of your responses to your question!





have fun proving him wrong
Reply:tell him to research Cesar, that he IS being sued for a dog that was injured on his premisis (he was not there, but staff used the treadmill, the dog now has 20000 worth of damage, and the owner is only suing for vet costs!)


he gets bitten, OFTEN. They don't show all of the cases on the show.


MOST dog behaviorists think that his ways are bad, they were used 20+ years ago.





There is a group here on yahoo. dogbehaviourscience look it up, then start reading about Ceasar. But don't ask about him, its been gone over a billion times, just look in past postings!





and yes, the added note was nessecerry. GRAB THE BOTTLE AND THROW IT OUT!
Reply:I watch "Emergency Room Vets", but I'm not qualified to offer medical advice to anybodies pet.


I watch "Animal Cops", and I'm not familiar with all the animal rights laws.


I watch "CSI", and I'm not a police investigator.


I could go on with this, but tell your brother to read the disclaimer at the beginning of the "Dog Whisperer".
Reply:Ceasar Milan is a hack, and his methods are abusive. If your brother thinks he knows everything about dogs because he learned it from Ceasar, he is wrong. You could do better by going to Pet Smart and buying a book than by taking advice from Ceaser Milan.





Note: If anyone ever sprayed chemicals in my dog's face for any reason other than self-defense, they would leave on a stretcher.
Reply:You seem to have more of an issue with your brother than with Ceaser. Your brother is just being a brother....a pain in the butt....that is what they are for. Yes, it is annoying when they are being show off, know it alls. Think of it this you will have the last laugh. Don't keep you feelings bottled up either......punching bags are a good way to release anger. By no means does this mean that you are to string your darling brother up by his neck and punch him!





I have heard what Ceaser has said, I have seen a part of his show once. I saw more than I needed or wanted to. I didn't agree with what he was doing, in fact many years ago (long before he was on TV), I tried exactly what he was showing on TV and it failed....in fact that was the point I turned off the show. From what I understand Ceaser has a good personality and he is a very charming man, therefore good TV. If he stops only ONE person from beating on a dog that is a good thing.





I have met several people who watch the show, some have never even owned a dog.....but they are now expert dog trainers.





WELCOME to the world of dogs!!! This is how is it. You take everything with a grain of salt. You learn to smile.





As far as that Bitter Apple goes. Product end use is not spraying it in someone's face it is meant to be spray on something. I believe you all ready pointed that out. Don't do it. I do not personally believe in spraying anything in a dog's face to stop a behavior. But that's me. If you feel the need to do this, plain water would to the trick. Throw the stuff out or instruct your brother to use only as directed on the label.





Maybe you can try to get your brother interested in those home repair or car repair shows. Then he maybe just start being master carpenter or mechanic and stop being a dog trainer.
Reply:the main thing about the Dog Whisperer is that he is teaching people you don't have to beat, choke, stave, or kick a dog to teach it. The Dog Whisperer sees dogs under almost crisis situations. AND do you think they will televise any of his mistakes or dogs his methods don't help?





I think he is great! BUT! The Dog Whisperer does not give the dogs enough credit for intelligence. He purely views them as animals. I have one dog who is so smart I can take him anyplace with out preparation. He has not been trained. He is just very intelligent. He really understand about 60 words, not commands. He even talks back with snorts. ( all he really wants to talk about is food though)





The Dog Whisperer is good. You should recognize that and adopt some of his methods But dogs are like people, all different. Your brother should recog nise the The dog Whisper is after all a TV program. NOt total reality.





MY GOD that is abuse!! REAd the directions they say not to spray on th edog!!!! BAth your dog quick! The poor thing! Tell your parents!!! And he does not spray his dogs in the face with anything!!!! TEll your parents we will poison your dog!!!! Of blind him!





Look kid if this is how you rbrother is you need to find a good home fo that poor dog. Find him a place where he is not abused. If I lived near you I woul report him to the Humane Society! If you rparents are allowing him to torture this poor dog they need reported to childrens services. Any child who tortures animals is very ill. Your brother needs help! And if you rparents don't get i tof rhim they need reproted to the proper authorities!
Reply:Just say "just because you watched the dog whisperer you don't have to pretend you can talk to them to. What do you really beleive in that stuff you loser"
Reply:Caesar has several good methods, however I do not agree with all of his methods. I do not feel holding a dog on the floor is right, that's just being a bully. I have used the 5 finger touch to redirect my dogs attention or to let him know I disapprove (as a pack leader or momma dog would do). Most of his methods are to show people you don't need to beat your dog to make him listen.





I know they don't show failed cases, but I have seen him tame the beast in many dogs.... of course they don't show you everything they had to go through to get the dog that far.





My father-in-law bought his book "Ceasar's Way", and yes, I've read it.





I've never heard him say, seen him use nor did I read it in his book anything about spraying a dog in the face with bitter apple. He doesn't use any chemical deterants, he uses "redirect". If the dog is chewing something they aren't supposed to, he redirects to something they are allowed to chew.





As far as his roller blades, yeah they do look a little weird. I rollerblade with my doberman every morning, and it helps expell energy and is great exercise.
Reply:Cesar Millan. Don't blame your brothers stupidity on Cesar. I was lucky enough to get Cesars help with a problem my dog had.Cesar is a very cool guy and knows his SH!T.He does not spray bitter apple on barking dogs, his methods are totally different than that. He would find out why the dog is barking I.E. aggression ,anxiety ,fear etc. and work on the issue more specifically.Bitter apple is to be sprayed on items to prevent chewing, not to be used as a weapon.More to point you and your brother need to be on the same page as far as how you train your dog, two different people and two different approaches will most likely make your dog 'Crazy'. Really put your dfferences aside for the sake of your dog. I suggest joining a group obeidience class together so you both learn and teach in similar ways.I also highly reccommend you watch the Dog Whisperer. Cesars methods do work and quite well. As far as the Law suit, it has nothing to do with his methods. He was exercising a dog that was very out of shape and had a hidden heart defect and had a heart attack,no one felt worse than Cesar..
Reply:Does it really matter who knows more about dogs? Caesar does not only teach dogs new tricks. He also helps dogs who have behavioral problems. If you really feel that way just tell him, or you could be the bigger person and just let him think that he does.





P.S. Was the "Added note" really necessary?



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