Okay, people like to hunt, that%26#039;s a given and the right can%26#039;t and shouldn%26#039;t be infringed upon, but why can%26#039;t the animals have a chance too? It is my belief that people should not be allowed to hunt with automatic AK-47s with night scopes, laser sights. If they are going to call it a sport, make it a bloody sport. High jumpers can%26#039;t have springs on their shoes, runners can%26#039;t have roller blades, and swimmers can%26#039;t have flippers, so why do hunters get all the advantages. You can hunt a deer with a bolt action .30-.06 just as well as with semi-automatic. I mean bird and duck hunting is kinda fair, but with all the new camouflages and hides out there, it%26#039;s slowly not. If people are going to hunt, they ought to at least make it sporting, don%26#039;t you think? Bow hunters and muzzle loaders have the right idea. Why can%26#039;t everybody have to do that too?
If people hunt, why can%26#039;t the animals have a chance, too?
I think that in most part the animals have a equal playing field.The reason I say that is because they are already in their home territory also they have a very good sence of smell as well as eye sight.Combined all of these characteristics and you have a very clever animal.As far as the hunters go we do have some pretty good camo and some of the deer lures (scent) you can buy help too.Most hunters that take it serious use a high powered riflr with a scope that only shoots one round at a time and not an AK 47.Such a rifle with night vision or laser sights isn%26#039;t practical for deer hunting anyway.I don%26#039;t think any real hunter would take something like that into the woods anyway.Most hunters that I know would pass some serious judement on a person that came equiped with any firearm similar to an AK 47 for deer hunting.Something else to add here would be ethics.Most real hunters would most likely see many deer before actually desiding to shoot one.This is where it takes patience and good judgement to make a decision wheather a deer is right for the taking.Things we have to consider before shooting is shot placement,distance,windage,serounding hunters or houses,possible live stock in near locations and bullet travel once shot is made.So you see not all hunters are trigger happy and we do care about making a clean humain kill with little or no pain.Something that I question is when people refer to hunting as a sport.I consider hunting a means to provide game animals or birds for meat that I will consume myself.I have never been comfortable with the term %26quot;sport%26quot; when talking about hunting.Anyway this is just my two cents worth here.
Reply:You need to think about the bigger picture here. The animals already have the advantage with keen senses and instincts that humans can never compete with without using our much bigger brains. Then on top of that hunting has been regulated to the extent that you only have a few months of legal time to hunt(along with work, family etc..) then there are bag limits, size limits, gender limits, permits to buy, special types of ammunition for certain species, certain hours to hunt, you can only hunt in specific areas (which are shrinking), baiting laws, and I%26#039;m sure there is more that I%26#039;m forgetting. Tell me now, who has the advantage?
If someone wants to use some super techno blind or a semi auto, btw doesnt really matter because you usually only get one shot anyway, to get a better chance at a kill more power to them. Its not like anybody is going to unload a 30round magazine into a deer, that kinda makes the trip useless and pisses off the neighbors. And sights dont really matter anyway. If you%26#039;re using a night scope you better be hunting coyotes on your own land with nothing bigger than a .22lr because otherwise you are going to jail. See you posted a question without even trying to think it through. Not slamming you either just pointing out the facts.
Reply:automatic AK-47s with night scopes, laser sights , flame throwers and grenade and or Tanks.
Are illegal to hunt with, why FAIR CHASE.
Look at the game regulations before you say anything.
The state where I hunt you cant have magazine capacity over 7 rounds.
I hunt with a single shot rifle my self, Ruger Number 1 or TC Encore.
You need to study more before you male false claims.
All states Game regulations are on the net LOOK.
Reply:I think you have the wrong idea.........no one to my knowledge is using an automatic AKs, night sights or laser sights to hunt game, all that stuff is for overthrowing the government.
If we saw a hunter out with any of that stuff, we%26#039;d laugh so much we%26#039;d scare away all the game.
Reply:Some anti-hunting moron has filled your head with lies. NOBODY can hunt anything in the U.S. with an AK 47 full auto rifle! Or with %26#039;night sights%26#039;. Hunting after dark is only for raccoons and there aren%26#039;t a lot of coon hunters. And they can%26#039;t use night sights either. Animals have way more advantages than any hunter has. Why do you think it%26#039;s called hunting? Because before you can shoot something, you have to find it. Then you have to sneak close enough to have a clean kill so the prey doesn%26#039;t suffer. And it%26#039;s some good eating, too.
Why do people like you think you can just be a pain in the @ss for normal people??? You aren%26#039;t impressing anyone. You aren%26#039;t helping any animals. AND you do not have any right to disturb any hunters. Bet you didn%26#039;t even know that shotguns can only have 3 shells in them while hunting! Rifles are restricted the same way.
Quit listening to so many liars and your life will be a lot better.
Reply:It%26#039;s not as easy as you think. You can go on sitting on your couch in your enlightened state or you can give it a try. If you have a problem killing, try it with a paintball gun or similar tool. You%26#039;ll find that these %26quot;helpless%26quot; animals can hear, see and smell you from a mile away.
Reply:Animals do hunt, and sometimes they eat people. If you checked the laws before spouting off you would see that it is illegal to hunt with automatic AK-47s, and all other machine guns.
Modern rifles kll more humanely than bows or muzzle loaders. You are suggesting that everyone should use things that will result in more wounded animals running off and sufferring, and remind me of the PETA members who are now on trial for killing over 100 puppies and kittens and throwing them in a dumpster.
Reply:As far as I know, you can%26#039;t hunt with automatic AK 47%26#039;s with night scopes. Automatics are illegal. Go back to munching on your granola.
Reply:they have a chance to hide and stay out of site
Reply:If the point of hunting is make it challenging then do what our ancestors did and use a pointy stick. Why do you need a rifle or a bow at all? Hunting can be as hard as you want or as easy as you want, you missed the point of hunting entirely by thinking it%26#039;s purely a standardized sport.
Reply:i think your question is about a semi auto vs a bolt action or single shot. and the best answer to that question is that if someone is using a semi-automatic rifle of any kind to hunt with then they probably are not proficient shooters and therefore it doesnt make any difference what type of gun they use. most good hunters only need one shot to drop their target.
in some cases the semi auto is not only a good idea but also the safest bet, for instance when you hunt dangerous animals such as lions or water buffalos. these animals may need follow up shots to stop them before they kill you.
and as far as making it fair consider this, when a human is hit with a bullet of any caliber in a vital area, that person generally goes down immediately. a wild animal will run considerable distances before dying. so sometimes a quick follow up shot is needed to insure recoverey of the animal so that it doesnt go to waste.
you are right about one animal versus one well trained and well armed hunter doesnt stand a chance. we are humans, they are animals, thats the way it was meant to be, if it was meant to be fair then they would have the ability to use a gun themselves, but this is where proper conservation comes into play, as a hunter i obey the bag limits so that i do my part to insure the survival of that particular animals population. as conservationists we do not harvest more animals than needed so that the remaining animals can easily repopulate and survive well into the future.
just some things to think about....
Reply:Are you kidding? Deer have super sensitive hearing and smell, Bears have about 1000lbs on you plus razor sharp claws, elk can kill you with their antlers, and all these animals can run faster than you. I think it%26#039;s a pretty uneven fight, in their favor.
You obviously don%26#039;t hunt very much. Just because you have a semi-automatic rifle and a night vision scope, doesn%26#039;t mean that you will actually find anything, and if you do you still have to get close enough to get a good shot. There%26#039;s more to hunting than pulling out your rifle and taking a shot. Even then you have to be a good shot to kill your game. If you can%26#039;t hit the braod side of a barn, all the bullets and scopes in the world won%26#039;t help you.
Reply:they do have a fair chance
Reply:I wish you people would just grow up.
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Reply:I am a avid goose and duck hunter. I spend more time scouting then I do hunting. From looking at different locations; to setting up decoys to look just like the birds. Even with all I put in to it there is no guaranty I will get a bird. They are smarter than you give them credit. Even with all the advances in camo and blinds it is still up to the hunter to do the research to be where the birds want to be. If I didn%26#039;t scout and just went out I wouldn%26#039;t stand a chance.
Reply:I have hunted deer for 30 years and have filled my freeze many times. But, the times that i%26#039;ve walked out of the woods empty handed have far outwayed the filled tags. The good Lord equipped these animals with %26quot;eagle%26quot; like vision, a nose more sensitive than any bloodhound and the ability to hear a twig snap a mile away. If you hunt legally, I%26#039;d say it%26#039;s a pretty fair fight.
Reply:Not all hunters are as you explain. I hunt with a bow, a muzzleloader, and a shotgun. Rifles and the like are not permitted in Ohio. Also if I had to choose just one, it would be the bow.
Reply:Okay bud, you are a little misinformed here. We can hunt with an ak-47, but it is illegal to own an automatic weapon in the United States. You can purchase a semi-automatic weapon, where you pull the trigger once and it fires once. Automatic means it just keeps firing. Secondly, you cannot hunt after dark. If you are using a night scope, you are breaking the law. Yes, you can purchase night-vision binoculars, but they are for scouting and hiking, etc. Also, if you go rifle hunting for deer, you wear blaze orange so other guys won%26#039;t shoot you. IT%26#039;s the muzzle loaders and bowhunters that are concealing themselves and wearing the camo.
Reply:The people with AK47%26#039;s, night scopes, etc. have a name: poachers. Bolt actions have become almost the only rifles you see in the hunting woods, though a few of us still like the nostalgia of the lever actions, single shots, and doubles. If you look, there are obsolete cartridges like the 30 Remington and 351 Winchester Self-loader that were designed for early semi-automatic rifles, and those cartridges are now pretty well collectors%26#039; items. That should tell you something about how hunters feel about firepower. And please keep in mind that game laws, and the taxes that support them, were initially suggested by hunters.
Reply:First let me say I am an avid hunter. The Sport of hunting is not as easy as some might think. However I do agree about using night scopes because it isn%26#039;t fair and it is very illegal. I use a .30-06 caliber a-bolt rifle to hunt with and it is not necessarily easy to kill a white tell in full gallop.
Now as for CSnumber1 I will be willing to bet they eat hamburger meat and cows don%26#039;t stand a snowballs chance in hell they are raised to be slaughtered for fast food and no one complains about a butcher. My deer meat is pure and I like it thanks for you ignorance CSnumber1
Reply:I can see your point, but one of the reasons hunters have the things that they have is to ensure a clean kill. The animals are smart and sometimes really, really hard to find so when people go out in camoflauge and put scent down and on themselves they are just trying to be hunters. People who hunted hundreds of years ago, often went hungry because they either couldn%26#039;t find animals or couldn%26#039;t get close enough to them to make a clean kill. That%26#039;s why there is some of the things that there are today.
Even with all of the technology available to hunters today, a lot of people go home with nothing. There are also a lot of rules and regulations on hunting and technology about what hunters can and cannot use.
Reply:No noe legally hunts with Ak-47s and night vision scopes, you big dummy. Don%26#039;t ask questions on Answers if you are stoned.
Reply:So you would rather us not use modern weaponry that would ensure quick, clean, and ethical kills and cause the animal the least bit of suffering? You want us to beat the animal to death and have it die a long and painful death? Is that what you would prefer over a bullet to the vital area?
Look, you need to understand ecology. Humans are predators. We don%26#039;t need meat to survive but go find out for yourself the ecological benefits. I%26#039;m tired of explaining things to people who don%26#039;t do their homework. You can have your opinions, but before you stir the pot you need to do research.
You try to sneak up on a deer without him knowing of your presense or try to flush up a pheasant in a huge corn field. We are in THEIR habitat and we have to fake out their hightened senses. That is their advantage and what makes it fair chance.
Reply:I really do despise Hunting too! Its no more a sport than gambling is! In fact its nothing less than controlled murder!
One bullet! That%26#039;s all you get. I don%26#039;t care what you are hunting! One bullet!!!!! There would be a whole lot more people playing poker! Its time for us as a race to stop this activity!
Reply:I agree. Any one who claims that hunting is a sport should not use any weapons that the animals don%26#039;t have. If you think that you are a sport hunter, go after the game with your bare hands.
Note: This does not apply to those who hunt for food.
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